01-10-2015, 10:00 PM
(01-10-2015 08:40 PM)Steveo Wrote: [ -> ](01-10-2015 07:21 PM)NjNyDigger Wrote: [ -> ](01-10-2015 07:05 PM)Ohio Dirt Fisher Wrote: [ -> ](01-10-2015 06:23 PM)NjNyDigger Wrote: [ -> ](01-09-2015 03:00 PM)Ohio Dirt Fisher Wrote: [ -> ]That Zircon unit is pretty neat. At least it'll get you in the ballpark. I'm back to my Garrett as the X Pointer has kinda died on me. I'd send it back as it's in warranty but they'll have a heart attack when they get it and see what kind of "use" I give it. And BONES is right about those freebie pin pointers. I had one that I completely wore out in about 3 months when I first started. I must've fixed it 2 or 3 times before I gave up and bought the Garrett.
The freebie probes are okay for someone just starting in the hobby, or if one finds themselves sans pinpointer, but for the most part, they're junk. The Fisher one is a plastic POS. All of those 'extras' that someone gets when they buy a detector are BS. For example...
Let's say they give you a digger, a probe, a carrying bag/pouch and all those dumb magazines, CD's, etc. All of that might cost maybe $50 wholesale...if that! They then give an inflated PER PIECE value, and come up with some ridiculous valuation.
"Buy this detector for only $899, and get this $350 accessory package totally FREE!"
Smoke & mirrors. However, the newb doesn't realize this, and the experienced know the game, yet, they look at the cheap freebies as the cherry on top of the sundae, which they would've bought anyway, even if there weren't any accessories.
This is why local, mom & pop dealers can almost always offer a better deal. Even if they do have accessories, they are usually of higher quality. Further, they can do away with the extras if one wishes, and that would knock down the price.
Joe
LOL. That's pretty funny and true. I called those people in FLA when I bought my Delta and asked them if they sold the detector without all the Bells & Whistles at a lower price and they said "No." It's like the car dealers listing "Air Bags" and "Passive Restraint Systems" (Seat Belts) as a feature. What a bunch of MORONS!!!
I too used them a few times, back when I didn't know any better. I'm not knocking them for making a buck, nothing wrong with that at all. The problem is the cheap crap they pass off as top shelf. Further...
I REALLY don't like the fact that they sell those "long range locating devices", which are pure bunk! You've seen the ones I'm talking about. They look like TV remote controls with a long ass antenna on one end. Supposed to be able to locate gold, silver & hordes. There is NO - ZERO - scientific data that says they work. Matter of fact, one fella took one apart years ago, and the guts of the thing had a broken circuit board held together by masking tape!
Joe
I have used the hand held locator what a bunch of huwie. But I have made my own locators with willow sticks and that works for water and I have made my own with copper rods and tubes for gold or any metal and found copper never gold though. I guess if you believe enough and happen to get really lucky the first time you could say they work.
But they sure do get expensive and are money makers for the person selling them.
I guess I might just wait to see what new stuff comes out this year
I believe that they are hew wee as well Steveo. Those willow twigs work though as I've seen Amish here use them to dig water in the fields for the cows. I don't know how, but it works. It's a tradition that's passed down. But this gobbledygook they pass off as detection has no basis in science. But so do the Willow twigs. There's something there that we just don't understand yet. But it takes just one Snake Oil salesmen selling "Hope" to detectorists, for a lot of money, to make a buck. And then disappear. A few souls will fall for it, but, "Let the buyer beware."
But as a side note, you know that there are a lot of things outside of science that are not necessarily within the realm of strict theory and grounded scientific history. Who knows, maybe it's an effect from the Earths magnetic field, maybe it's from spatial gravitation anomalies. Maybe it's consciousness interfering with the laws of Nature. It's a whole bunch of imponderable questions that with today's science can't be answered. Maybe someday. Not today.
Ed